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Admin change [Jul. 2nd, 2006|06:17 pm]
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Some news to Report. There have been some leadership changes and now I am the head Administrator of Yerf. As such I now have to address the problems and make new opportunities for Gallery and the community. I am aware that the site, after an initial bump, the traffic has tapered off and remains stagnant, New Uploads are fairly healthy but the forum traffic can usually go a couple of days before a new post. And it’s always the same few faces. And when I talk to people they are surprised the Yerf is back. I am hoping in the weeks and months ahead to end this period of stagnancy and bring the traffic and interest up.



What wont Change

Content standards will not change. This is Yerf, and it has a heritage and current duty, to provide clean anthropomorphic illustration for the viewers. Upload guidelines and the prohibition against the provocative display of primary and secondary sexual characteristics , and excessive gore and Violence remain in effect, Yerf is, and will be carried forth in the spirit of the “Squeaky Clean Furry Archive’ in this Administration.

Quality Standards for Apps will remain as they were as of December 27th 2004, in that new artists applying will have to apply under the same guidelines that were in effect at the above date. They may rise a bit in the future, but I don’t see that as a pressing issue.

The One inviolate Rule that once a Yerf Artist, Always a Yerf artist will remain unchanged. Once you are in, you are still in. Dingo is instant upon this, and no amount of discussion can change this.

Ideas

Applications

To lift up the community from it’s current stagnancy, I believe that the best way to do that is to reopen the applications. However there are some significant technical problems to doing that. To address this I have already contacted a coder, and have messages to the current staff so as to get the momentum going again. We need new blood, new faces and new art to discuss on the forums again. We need this done first. I am making this the priority, to get the applications open as soon as possible..

When it is open we will need reviewers it may take some time to acquire enough people to do that, so at first it will be the job of the Mods and Admins to review art applications. To make sure that the workload is manageable until we get enough reviewers, we will be capping the number of new applications to 5 per month. and this number will rise depending on the number of reviewers that respond to our call for assistance. We can gage the progress of the applications and if those five are finished quickly we can increase the cap. This means that we may have to decrease the cap if not enough of them are being processed in a timely manner.


Getting the Word Out.

The second way to reverse this trend is to spread the word that Yerf is not only back but accepting applications again. I think that making journal entries is far as it goes, but we need more public venues for this. I think that one of the best ways to do this is to host room parties at as many of the furry cons as we can manage. This means a party with a laptop, some tunes, and munchies, but no television or animation. The focus should be on the art, and conversation, as the site itself is. We might put together a packet for those who would volunteer to host a one night room party.

To fund this I propose that we hold a contest somewhat like the trading Post. But for the design of 5 Yerf shirts. I am going to talk to some folks that make shirts to check what the design criteria are, but the default may be Café Press, But also having shirts to sell at cons would be a good idea. When I get clearer specification Instructions, I will post that as it’s own thread. The contest it self will be a month for each shirt design with two weeks of open design ideas, and then two weeks of voting on the top vote getters, with the finalist being chosen by the largest votes at the end of the month. If this is successful, this may expand beyond 5, and become a regular feature. If it is less so, at least people have five designs to pick from.

I have asked some advice from some people I know for other ideas and will present them as they get back to me. Also I am open to other ideas for fundraising and spreading the message. It’s Important.

Education.

On of Dingo’s goals was to make the site a bit more education oriented. I would like to ask people to send either links, or their own tutorials. We may make them their own forum, but with the tutorials added after review for clarity, and level of anatomical competency. Once reviewed, they will be added to the forum in their own locked topics that will allow people to browse by title. However the preference will be for complete tutorials, because external links change over time. For reviewers and Mods we will be producing documents that will hopefully make your jobs clearer and easier. We are going to try and make communication here more of a priority.

That being said, Yerf is more for those of intermediate skill level than beginning. Our focus is towards Anthropomorphic Illustration and “animal people” rather than a generalist art site. So the tutorials should be produced with a basic competency of being able to construct a consistent character head in a ¾ view, though may not be up on muscles, anatomy or wing construction. Tutorials on perspective, Lighting, composition and color theory would be greatly encouraged. Help for beginners still be rendered on the Critiques forum,

Thanks.

In Conclusion I would like to thank Cougrr, for her service, and also Mauricia for her efforts, enthusiasm and good cheer. They will remain on staff, though their time is limited by other concerns. I extend a welcome to newcomers “Yelth” and “Cora” to the ranks of Mod. Cora’s duties will be on my old stomping ground, Critique, and Yelth will be doing some forum maintenance, as she has prior PHBB experience. I will need her advice to make sure the board runs smoothly and can hopefully reduce the number of spambots flooding the forums. I would also like to welcome back Thornwolf as a Forum Moderator. Her energy and artistic expertise is greatly appreciated. Finally I would ask you, the community for any suggestions or ideas you may have, as with good communication good ideas can flourish. Thank you.


Scott
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[User Picture]From: spiffystuff
2006-07-03 01:18 am (UTC)
*three cheers!* horray!

I really think reopening applications will indeed increase traffic flow, and even education. Because is's a reasonably high goal that people need to work for it, and if/when they get it it's quite an accomplishment, but at the same time it's not so hard as to be totally unreachable.
Plus of courts the crits received for applying are fantabulous ;)
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[User Picture]From: spiffystuff
2006-07-03 01:20 am (UTC)
urrrh, forgot :P You asked for suggestions. Maybe sometime in the future, add spots for other mediums, like stories and comics :D Yerf's current format doesnt' really suit them, but it'd be cool to have a place for good furry writers as well as artists.
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From: duke_otterland
2006-07-03 01:28 am (UTC)
*salutes new administrator*

Hopefully updates to Yerf's art will be more often in the future....
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[User Picture]From: growly
2006-07-03 01:37 am (UTC)
Woo! I am so excited that you've taken the reins. :D I know you're going to do an awesome job.
I like your ideas, and I hope they are successful, especially the applications and Yerf publicity.
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[User Picture]From: xothia
2006-07-03 01:51 am (UTC)
I second this.

New mediums will spruce up the place, and I don't think 3D stuff is about to take over so it's not a threat.

I'd love to be able to post my work again.
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[User Picture]From: ruggafluff
2006-07-03 03:47 am (UTC)
Thirded!

I rarely ever do sculpture, but it would be good to see some nicely photographed, high-quality stuff about. =) I hardly think it would detract from the gallery at all, so long as the same quality standards apply to 3D as to 2D.
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From: lmai
2006-07-03 03:53 am (UTC)
Err lol I third this request..lol I didnt realise this was posted already as I made the same request in my reply!
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 04:12 am (UTC)
We will see, if you can remember there was much discussion about 3D objects being allowed in and it caused quite a mix of opinions. I think the main focus for now is to get the 2D art up and running at full capacity, THEN we can see about adding new genres =) Right now we only have half the gallery options going with no way to add new 2D artists and we need to fix that first.
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[User Picture]From: felinaeus
2006-07-03 01:49 am (UTC)
Actually, your post has reminded me of something I was meaning to do.
On behalf of C-ACE, Yerf will be listen on the links page. Now that we have a links page, that is.
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[User Picture]From: chlorophyta
2006-07-03 01:49 am (UTC)
Congrats, Scott! I have confidence that with your help, Yerf can, indeed, rise to strength again. =)
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[User Picture]From: calzephyr77
2006-07-03 03:01 am (UTC)
This is great news Scott :-) I would be happy to put on the reviewer hat again!
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[User Picture]From: ruggels
2006-07-03 05:37 am (UTC)
We would be happy to have you back.

Scott
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From: lmai
2006-07-03 03:51 am (UTC)
Congratulations sweets!!!

So Far I like the basic idea' you have for getting word out about Yerf. The room party I'm a bit skeptical on as they have a tendancy to be...well HUGE if it involves a group of people who contain some incredible artistic talent. Everyone wants to meet them and can cause an influx of fans. Which is good but..crowded.

The T-shirt idea is also wonderfull as well.

As for advertising, AT AC I had the opportunity to talk to Ch'marr of VCL (Wonderfull Guy) And he gave me several Buttons advertising VCL. I also noticed him running around the con with the same Bag giving out pins. The pins have the website name and the address around the edge. I thought that it was a wonderfull idea for advertising as alot of people I found were asking me what VCL was when they saw my buttons on my purse.

Another Idea would be to have some of the more prominant artists, or well known names such as Cara Mitten, or Megan Giles etc etc, have perhaps Yerf Business cards at their dealers tables along with their own cards.

Also re-opening the Applications will bring in loads more traffic.

Another thing that might help would be to allow pictures of Sculptures the artists have made. There are some AMAZING sculptors out there and they are in dire need of good places to post their work other then DA and FA.

^.^ Much love and Congrats again hun!
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[User Picture]From: marymouse
2006-07-03 03:54 am (UTC)
Excellent news. I look forward to see how things develop. Most people I have met/talked to at recent Furry cons have regarded Yerf in a "ho-hum" kind of manner, neither negitive or positive. It would be most excellent to see new artists, and hopefully a more lively feel for the site.

I remember back when I first came online. I had discovered the furry fandom in late 1997/early 1998. I found Yerf, and was so happy when I was accepted.

(Of course, nowadays, I would have NEVER been accepted with the artwork that had accompianed my application back then. Honestly, I feel strange about posting art now, and when I do, I try to make it the best of what I can produce... but I stray from my point.)

Yerf helped me meet so many people, many of whom I still run into at cons/online today. I remember the fun days of learning to push myself harder to draw better, Yerf was a great place to get feedback/help. I used to check the new uploads every second I got, and I loved seeing all of the different styles and characters. I felt like I belonged to something special, and I was happy when my art got a little better and I felt I was actually contributing to a postive repesentation of the furry fandom.

I would love to see Yerf become alive again. The site itself is still special to me, and I trust that you, Scott, will do your best to preserve it's great tradition! Thanks for taking on the responsiblity - I know it will entail much hard work!
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 04:15 am (UTC)
You and me both. My whole connection to the internet art world started with Yerf. We really wanna get it back on it's feet. This is more of a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing, but hopefully from now on there will be much more communication.
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[User Picture]From: iguanaartgirl
2006-07-03 04:11 am (UTC)
in the next year, I'll be going to MFF, FWA, AC, and possibly FC. If no one else at these cons is doing it, I'd love to host a Yerf party if I can get a space (I will most likely be sharing hotel space with other people who may or may not be affiliated with yerf or even want a party there, so that'd be the only problem). As it gets closer to the cons, I'll let you know if I'm even able to.

I think another simple idea is to make sure every con that Yerf is visible somehow. C'marr from VCL hands out buttons at AC. If there is a flier table, put up small fliers with the Yerf mascot and some info about us being back. Heck, even if we just make sure someone at every con has a "Yerf is Back!" t-shirt on. I think doing something like this would be a good idea, because it gets peoples minds back on the site, remember that we're there, and so word gets out faster that we are back.
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 04:16 am (UTC)
Good idea about the buttons/fliers/shirts!

And thank you for your offer, please keep us posted on the situation if it gets closer to a con and it looks like you still wanna host :>

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[User Picture]From: dustmeat
2006-07-03 03:05 pm (UTC)
Wait, who was head admin before you?
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 07:17 pm (UTC)
Cougrr/Quille
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[User Picture]From: unmutual
2006-07-03 07:58 pm (UTC)
I think it's great how everyone but me knew that I was in charge. No one bothered to tell me until a few weeks ago.
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 08:02 pm (UTC)
For serious? I thought you knew because you did a lot of stuff.
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[User Picture]From: unmutual
2006-07-03 08:10 pm (UTC)
For serious. I really thought I was just another member of the team. I didn't know that I was supposed to be "in charge" until Scott offhandedly mentioned it a few weeks ago. Then I was like "Wait, what? I'm in charge? Since when? Who put me in charge?"
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 08:10 pm (UTC)
I thought you knew though cuz you and Mauricia were the only "admins". The rest of us were just "mods".
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[User Picture]From: unmutual
2006-07-03 08:15 pm (UTC)
Ursula's also an admin. But still, I thought we were all teammates, and that the forum doesn't really need anyone to be "in charge." Everyone knows what needs to be done, right?

Personally, I thought the separation between "mods" and "admins" was rather silly. The forum needs more "admins" who can get at the back end and fix things when there are real problems, like when someone doesn't get their confirmation code email, or loses their password, so there are fewer delays in getting back to people when they have problems.

It's good to see you back on the mod team. I'm glad you decided to rejoin.
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 08:17 pm (UTC)
Thank you, and as long as "we" decide to play nice and not undermine each other's authority, I'll stay, but there /needs/ to be more communication. Like we discussed, if one figures something out, tell everyone else. I think thats the main problem is no one knew what their powers were.

Hopefully all this will get figured out.

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[User Picture]From: unmutual
2006-07-03 08:18 pm (UTC)
I don't know what you mean by undermining your authority, but I would be happy to discuss these things with you via email.
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 08:21 pm (UTC)
If you'd like, but I think Scott pretty much addressed the issue already and i'm willing to drop it provided things are cool from this point forward.
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[User Picture]From: unmutual
2006-07-03 08:23 pm (UTC)
Whatever you like. I'm stepping back from Yerf responsibility, although obviously I'm still reading, and if I have ideas I will put them forth.
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[User Picture]From: thornwolf
2006-07-03 08:24 pm (UTC)
Muchas gracias =)
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From: battie42
2006-07-03 06:21 pm (UTC)
I was hoping to apply when applications reopen, but if you're shorthanded on reviewers I'd be willing to help out again instead.

Glad to see the ball rolling again.
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[User Picture]From: acrimonius
2006-07-03 11:33 pm (UTC)
SHIT WE'RE DOOMED

*runs*
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[User Picture]From: acrimonius
2006-07-03 11:36 pm (UTC)
By the by, I'm still on the reviewer list, right?
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[User Picture]From: ruggels
2006-07-03 11:41 pm (UTC)
...oh yes... >;->
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[User Picture]From: orleans
2006-07-04 03:24 am (UTC)
Glad to see some signs of life. Thanks, Scott! :) I was glad when Yerf returned, but I couldn't help feeling it had lost something. It's very Web 1.0 right now. :O
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[User Picture]From: wolfebyte
2006-07-04 08:10 am (UTC)

Reviewers?

I was a reviewer just shortly before the site's last near-death experience, and I'd be happy to give it a go again, even as a semi-perm or whatever, given that I've got full-time net access at work now. Whatever you needed, really, once the apps are back up and running.

Normally I'd just use a PM/email for this, but the last couple times has only met with dead air, so figure I'll just do it publicly and see how it goes. :)

(Oh, and congrats as well, of course.)
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From: aimore
2006-07-05 07:18 am (UTC)
When I found the Yerf at year 2000, you gave me a good way to go, but I lost my direction after 2002.

Scott wrote: "The second way to reverse this trend is to spread the word that Yerf is not only back but accepting applications again".
Good idea!

I love the Yerf's Mascot too.
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[User Picture]From: rjbartrop
2006-07-06 09:14 pm (UTC)
Congratulations, and good luck. You can count me as one of the people who'd like to see sculpture back on Yerf. A bigger presences at cons sounds like a very good idea. You might want to consider a presence at some non-furry cons as well if you're trying to spread the word. Yerf's content and quality would go a long way toward breaking preconceptions about "furry art", and you might attract some artists from the SF/fantasy community who are interested in anthro subject matter, but are either unaware, or repelled by, the more mainstream furry fandom.
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[User Picture]From: manic_kitty
2006-07-09 09:32 am (UTC)
Good to know you have solid plans for Yerf publicity. I particularly like the T-shirt idea. Perhaps in future if this takes off, Yerf could have a prints/shirts/merchandise store, similar to what DA does. I don't know how much more work and coordination that would take, though.
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[User Picture]From: rjbartrop
2006-07-09 07:28 pm (UTC)
It sounds promising, like so many other things, but one of Yerf's strong points is it's lack of creeping featuritis. The pages load quickly, are easy to maneuver around, and are free of visual clutter. Some things may be worth adding at some point, but first and foremost, the design of the Yerf site should be guided by the KISS principle.
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From: peter79
2006-07-11 12:26 pm (UTC)
I agree that the site should be kept as basic as possible with unnecessary clutter, but right now it doesn't even have a search feature. I used to use the old site's search feature a lot, even if I felt it could use a few extra options. It's pretty hard to find certain things I used to look for before... I also think a search feature would make the site more accessible...
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[User Picture]From: c_eagle
2006-07-11 08:29 am (UTC)
Thank you as always for the report!
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